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Post by stokbrood on Jan 24, 2018 10:52:48 GMT
Hi all, I have been brainstorming about a canal from west to east. I like these kinds of projects that take several weeks to complete. The idea I had in my head came from the canal system on deli in Wurm online. And people might be able to make like underground cave harbours next to the canal. this is the path that needs to be taken:  prntscr.com/i4uq5j
If any deeds are in the way where people dont want the canal I can probably make it so that I pass your deed. I am also trying to get in contact with the guy from holms landing but havent seen him since I started playing so that deed might be inactive (if so it might be a gerat spot for the enterance fo the canal.) I might need some help with collapsing tiles and digging away some veins. If your deed is on the red line my question is are you ok witht his project and/or would you be a part of it and/or do you wanne add an undergoudn ahrbour to it. Can answer in this thread or send me a pm.
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Post by Cherikla on Jan 24, 2018 12:37:00 GMT
I have to say I'm not crazy about us [Saster Grove] being bordered on 2 sides by the proposed canal. It also appears from the picture you posted that your canal will run across the area where we've been trying to dig you an access tunnel to our mines to help you get from the cliff top to the ground levels without falling off the hillside.
My other question is whether this project adds enough value for other players for the work involved? I know there is presently an access tunnel being built through the mountain close by north of the canal route which is already well underway. Would it be best to maybe transfer your construction efforts to that and let us gauge the impact of the existing tunnel in construction before starting any new major works?
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Post by vitez on Jan 24, 2018 22:45:27 GMT
As my home is directly and in my opinion negatively affected by this canal, I hereby issue my objections to this plan.
Passing it along the borders of our settlement only means you are directly blocking expansion and mining-plans.
With the lands you are passing through outside the mountain being lower, I am worried your underground canal won't be underground anymore when you pass our settlment.
I feel this canal is poorly planned and poorly communicated with those involved.
I also fail to see the value of the canal, when the tunnel from The Hansa to the west is nearing completion (and that tunnel is not far away from the planned canal)
Vitez
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Post by zenreich on Jan 24, 2018 22:58:45 GMT
I agree with the points made above that this canal project should be reevaluated.
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Post by enoofu on Jan 24, 2018 23:13:39 GMT
Route will be going though a Underground Highway and I believe 2-3 other people's tunnels or ones being currently expanded.
A lot of it route goes directly though the middle of my Alt deed, so kinda puzzled on why this route was picked??
I'm not against a canal that well designed going though my deed, just don't see how these current plans as being well designed for the community at large, and without causing a uproar
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Post by stokbrood on Jan 25, 2018 6:07:07 GMT
Hi , I understand your concers, I could make it go more north, so it doesnt pass right along your deed I could make it go through/under the valey where there are no settlements or 1 abandoned Also there would be almpst no ines and fewer tiles to collapse. So further up north. However then you wont have direct acces to the canal from your deeds. I have walked the whole way and didnt cross any deeds so dunno wich one you meaned enoofu.
also I dont pass any tunnels I believe I am goign south under the north tunnels and staying north of the other tunnel on the south.
I got to say I love this big kind of projects, its also one of the reasons why I joined the younger Novus server cause there is still room for these projects, I have been part of big tunneling/highway projects before and I have to say we never recieved so many negative comments before.
People would even collapse their own tiles in order to make the canal go as straight as possible, so i have to say I am a bit disapointed. I posted the pic in alliance chat aswell, yet then you didnt say anything.
I will be working on a solution today to see haw much further north we could go
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Post by Iamyourfather on Jan 25, 2018 8:04:19 GMT
The whole point to posting is to make sure you're not tunnelling to close or through anyone's deed that doesn't want the project near them, so you can't really complain when people reply negatively.
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Post by stokbrood on Jan 25, 2018 8:41:48 GMT
The whole point to posting is to make sure you're not tunnelling to close or through anyone's deed that doesn't want the project near them, so you can't really complain when people reply negatively. I know this and I agree with this thats why I posted it on the forum in the first place. I know that something like this needs weeks of planning it might take months untill finished. I can always complain. I dont see how this would have a negative impact on the server, it would improve mobility and trading also people would be able to go further into the center of the map more easy to start their deeds. So yes I am a bit disapointed by the reactions even if they are wrong (I dont cross any deeds if I go more to the north and dont interfere with any projects of saster grove (since its them who are complaining) My own deed and another player, who totaly aproves the canal, deeds are inbetween and it wont be in the same mountain at all, it just looks like that on the map cause of the 3D effect by the mountian.). Also why am I not allowed to complain? If I dislike something and doesnt think its right I am surely allowed to complain about it. At least thats what forums are for. Honestly I am a bit offended by how people think I will start this tomorrow and wreck peoples deeds while doing it. I just posted this as an idea knowing it will take a looong time to complete it. And I cant do this alone. I honestly believe something like this would benefit the server overal. And a project liek this is super rewarding that why I love to do them  . But hey, if everyone is against it, like I said its just an idea and thats the whole reason I posted this, I wont do it or find some alternative. |
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Post by kresnik on Jan 25, 2018 13:55:34 GMT
Hey guys, I'm pretty happy to see a discussion about this canal as I'm the mayor of Namek, and have been thinking about an eventual canal myself. Here's a link to the plans I have been considering. The circled route is already an approved canal proposal from the mayor of Oblivion I think, but the project hasn't broken ground yet. I think it would definitely be a good collaborative project once we get the planning hammered out. Also, since we're on the subject, we need to come up with an official cool name for the lake =) *Edit - Northern and Southern routes that I have also contemplated. Heck, maybe we can implement all three routes if nobody has any objections *me assuming they are out of the way*, and we'll have some awesome trade routes through the map. |
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Post by stokbrood on Jan 26, 2018 7:20:58 GMT
Hey krsnik I have been thinking about that aswell the same lines, since my alliance is heavily against the plans of building a canal goign parallel with the existing tunnel. I am considering moving and also moving the project. At that point I had the feeling there wgere to many deeds near these 3 lakes. right now I moved to the south and there is also room for a canal. I am starting ove from scratch agai but keeping my old deed near the Hansa.
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Post by kresnik on Jan 26, 2018 17:04:00 GMT
Right on bud. Yea I saw your original plans and it looks like that route would be going through already existing tunnels and other deeds. With my plans, the westerly route would need to be reviewed by the settlements of Oblivion, Fellmere Lake, and probably about one or two other deeds. The North route needs to be reviewed by North Laketown, and I'm not sure what the deal is with the other deeds that may be affected that way. The southern route looks mostly clear except for 2 possible deeds it looks like. I haven't scouted the area by foot yet so I'm just looking at the livemap for now and whatever I can remember from previous traveling around.
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Post by stokbrood on Jan 28, 2018 22:59:00 GMT
I have moved south and will probably be building a canal to my mountain deed with the possibility of further expansion to the lake. I still have to check a lot of mining related stuff buth so far it seems I am staying away from the other deeds. I will make a possible route for the southern part so it can also be connected to the starter area. will check out possible routes tomorrow and make some sketches with my awesome paint skills.
I am always happy to help with your plans on the northern part if they get aproved.
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