Requesting Fellow Skloptopolis advice on dealing with issues

I decided to make this post with the intent to allow my fellow deed owners a topic to vent some of their fellow "special" annoyances, and work together to come up with the best ideas to address these "special" problems, and maybe help people to know they are not alone on the people trying to troll your town. So how do you, my fellow deed owners and sklotopolis citizens handle your "special" annoying issues that come up on this server (without naming names!), still follow the rules, and still be considered someone who is contributing to the "friendliness of this "friendly" server?





I began on this server the day of, or the day after Novus was opened. I ran around getting started and finding the perfect location for my future town, which I founded on Oct 11, 2017. I play on this server with my wife, and our currently 16 year old daughter, 15 year old son, and our 13 year old autistic son. We began in Nov building a backwards "L" shaped highway out of our town, as a family. We had fun and our youngest son was so proud he helped build such a cool highway on the server everyone would use: imgur.com/a/hAMpl





Our town quickly became one of the largest and most populated towns on the server. We have always strived to help new people learn the game, get a good start on a game we enjoy, and help to give the server a "friendly" feel that has always made Wurm such an great game since I began playing Wurm Online when it came out many years ago. Well, every great town has people who try and cause it problems(unless its owned by a server admin, then they would be dumb to mess with you), but we have had 3 noteable ones that are worth mentioning and how they turned out.



Problem Child #1 I say again, not mentioning names. I had heard people complain about things this guy would do, constantly, in GL-Freedom, and kept thinking how glad I was to not have to deal with him around my town. Chances are I could mention his name or some of the things people were complaining about him about and many of you would say you remember him, and are glad he disappeared. Well, he wound up making an alt deed on an island just south off the coast of our town. He then asked if he could make a road from his island to our town and run it through our town to connect to our "L" shaped highway. I told him "no, that it would be right through our harbor, but how about a bridge?" He went ahead and poured a dirt raise right through our harbor. Not sure why he bothered asking. So, I expanded the deed south, out onto the water some, and removed the raised dirt within our town. He eventually disbanded his deed, and left. Still not sure why the bridge wouldn't have worked for him. Our boats could have sailed under it and he could have driven to his deed. We now currently own the island and have a bridge to it, and are working on something cool on it. He seems to have quit the server, his last post on the forums was on 11NOv2017 @ 8:40a



Problem Child #2 He joined our town from some other town out west. He seemed like a decent guy. He began doing jerky things like: editing peoples stuff, he would change people's grass fields to lawns under people's animals, he was constantly saying crude stuff to people on the things they'd do in town. I would try and get him to stop and he'd just say "meh". He was also running around the server along with <town member A> making highways. He began posting in our town discord things he would do. He posted a convo he had with one guy outside the town, <outsider 1>. He had asked <outsider 1> about making a highway to <outsider 1>'s deed. <Outsider 1> told him, he didn't want a highway to his deed, that he liked being off the beaten path, and hard to locate by others. <Problem Child #2> began doing things to mess with <outsider 1>, that were still within the confines of the rules. He ran a highway all the way around <outsider 1>'s deed and made signs directing to <outsider 1>'s deed, just to be a jerk to the guy and was bragging about it in our town discord. I told him we don't do that kind of stuff, and that he needed to stop, and that his behavior reflected on Wolves' Landing, and could cause our town problems and to not be doing stuff like that if he was gonna be part of this town. He did some other things to other people I would find out later. He also decided to edit our "L" shaped highway, because he thought it was poorly done. He re-routed it to go over the tar pit that ran beside, and made a bridge over the tar pit. While making a cross highway in front of our town working with <town member A> on a highway. <Town Member A> suggested they make the highway out of a different brick. <Problem child #2>, began berading <town member A>, and saying who cares about your opinion?! He then renamed the bridge "<town member A>'s opinion" just to be a jerk. Those two began fighting and I had to be a mediator. <Problem child #2>, got mad and left the town, which really needed to happen. BUT, he moved just down the road from us and dropped his deed smack in the middle of the "L" shaped highway we made, knowing we made it, and wanting to get at us. Not that I had done anything wrong to the guy! He then massively expanded his deed, and then got permission to block off the highway, in the middle of the "L" shaped highway, and rerun the highway all the way around his deed just to be a jerk. Our town is coastal on two sides. He placed ships all along our coasts and in the harbor. He would temporarily rename his ships with stuff just mess with us. He also got a group of guys to drive carts in our town in circles just to annoy us -I still don't know the purpose. He did a lot of other stuff, I forget what all, but we would make support tickets over some of this stuff, but nothing was able to be done about it, and only mad the server admins irritated at both parties. I still have copies of all the chats with the admins I would have to talk to about the things he kept doing. It was such a mess, me and my family almost quit the server. He registered on the forums 11Nov2017 @ 4:07p. He joined our town sometime in Nov 2017, and he left our town around early Jan 2018. He messed with us for months, and caused many annoyances,we decided to just try and ignore his junk, and he got bored but wanted to keep the road blocked with the deed so he made sure to log in once every 3 months until his deed got disbanded for inactivity in Sept 2018. Now we have the "L" shaped highway, the main highway to our town, open again.



I always wondered if Problem child #1 and Problem child #2 were the same guy, but using an alt or a separate acount; as problem child #1's last post on the forums was 11Nov2017 @8:40a and problem child #2 joined the forums at 11Nov2017 @ 4:07p, and that problem child #2 only joined our town to get back at our town for messing up his plan to run a solid road through our harbor.



Problem child #3 He joined our town at the end of January 2018. He was very quiet. Our town has a few rules, but not overly tedious or difficult ones. I had promoted <Town member A> to town admin. <Town Member A> was trying to enfore the rules I made, and caught a lot of crap from Problem Child # 3 about it. I got many private messages from both <problem child #3> and <town member A> on discord while I was offline, it was over a dispute they were having. By the time I got home and able to log on, <problem child #3> had left the town and made his own deed quite a ways up northwest of our town. He asked if he could be part of our alliance instead. I told him if he didn't cause any problems with <town member A>, I suppose he could.  Months went by.  Well, he never talked in chat, and he stopped playing for about 2 months, so I booted him from the alliance for being inactive in the game around the end of May 2018. He then made an alliance recruitment post (edited only to remove the names):



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Hello fellow Wurmians. As tittle says, i looking for new alliance. I live in <Problem Child #3's deed>, which was part of Wolves Landing alliance in past, but during inactivity was removed. First of all i want tell you, that i am builder, i prefer build in slavic mixed medieval style as long as wurm options let me. I love building projects as our ancestor build it - simple. I believe, that they was not affraid how it looking, when it working well as it has. My projects are planned and long terms targets. I prefer calm, by nothing disturbed game than to be competitive with others.







Additional informations:



I prefer play only with 1 character and i dont require any permission from alliance. So you guys dont need be afraid that i am somebody who want robbed you. Only what i want is alliance with somebody, maybe with community, because i think you can always learn about new things when you only listening others.







Personality:



Iam very quite silent person, because i speak through my creatings. My nick <Problem Child #3> is latin name, which is my real name. It is connected with roman God Mars, which is god of war and god of agriculture. That mean i love nature, but iam not from porcelain and i can be very angry when somebody try something against me. In RL i live in central europe, so it will better to stay in CET time zone. I also play 1 another game, where iam part of local community too. That is reason why i can be inactive for longer, but i never leave servers without any message. I hope somewhere out here is at least one alliance which i can be part of. Thank you for your patience.







regards







<Problem Child #3>, Mayor of <Problem Child #3 's deed>







History:



I promised to friend, that i write testimony about his village, but i think write my story will be better, to let you understand me.







I was mayor many years in own village, in huge alliance on WO independence server, but almost with no neighbours. I realised that shape of game is horrible anti-social. Everybody can create own heaven but without people it will not last long. I believe each MMO game should connect people, work together, live together, etc.. but there, i left after all others left too.



So i come to sklotopolis and seek new adventure and play game in other ways i never did before.



I choose to join Wolves Landing which looks as one of the best avaible on Novus. I builded my small house there, enjoy people around, i learning new things from them, know them better, everything that you need to feel good when you stay with community.



But then.. my destiny want it in diferent way. I was forced to leave and my dream about WU life here was ruined, because of one agressive guy, which is still in charge there and not belong to the WL family. For his privacy i must use only his pseudonym "jerko".



After all i not go far. I went to North and build my little house again. I love smell of fields of wheat and baking bread and smell of fermented gin isnt bad after all too. All i wantet before was to stay in village, with other people, enjoy wild hunting events, slay events, etc. but everytime when i try, something push me back to my world of building.

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He posted way back in May 2018, and mentioned my town, but didn't use names. So, if he can do it, and has been allowed to remain up for 7 months now, then doing this is perfectly acceptable on the forums. It bothered <town member A> to be called "jerko" on the forums, since he hadn't really done anything to <problem child #3>, but we helped <town member A> to get over it by joking with him about it, and moving on. No one has bothered <problem child #3>, or done anything to him. Well, I have been gone a lot for the last two weeks. I have kept quiet about whats going on IRL, till now. I have been taking my wife to the doctors and dealing with her medical issues, she has a large benign tumor on her liver that is growing and causing her issues. We went to the Liver Transplant center the other day and found out they think she should have the right lobe of her liver removed, so I haven't been in the mood to play a lot on Wurm. During this 2 weeks, apparently <problem child #3> expanded his deed all the way south to butt his deed up against our deed, covering the massive forest, <town member B> had planted, it was 100s of trees, part of which is now on his deed and part of it still off, leaving ever stump-100s. <town member A> to my understanding asked him to remove the stumps, and could he leave some of the trees? He responded by chopping the trees in the perimeter of Wolves' Landing, and <town member A>'s alt deed. <town member A> made a support ticket, and it was determined <problem child #3> hadn't broken any rules, so he was allowed to do it. I check discord to find out about all this. AND 


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<problem child #3> messaged me this on discord: Want speak with guy Called <Town member A>. Here is no reason to be un-friendly neighbours.

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I replied with: Several of our town members planted all the trees your chopping out. Your leaving all the stumps, causing lag. Can you stop chopping the trees down on people's perimeters, and replant trees in the areas you don't have deeded? These are the things <town member A> is mad about, and some other town people. If your wanting to be good neighbors.

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I'm not gonna repost his response, but basically he said, he was gonna keep chopping all the trees around our deeds, and leaving the stumps, unless I pay him to get logs somewhere else, or get my town members to start dropping resources off at his "vynora statue".   If we don't like the forest of stumps, remove the stumps and replant trees that he will chop down again!

This is the last line of his response: "We always can do deal. Here is no need to throw bumerang ticket against me, it always hit only you and harder."
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I have yet to respond to him since.



I have never put in a support ticket on him, or done anything to this guy, other then what I have already put in this post. Being a US Army Veteran Fister, I hold the same mentality as the US "We do not give into to the demands of terrorists!"

Ironically this guy while in our town having his argument with <town member A> said before he left my town on 2-2-2018: [15:12:06] <Problem Child #3> "i joined this village because of nice family not because of you."
I have put it out to my entire town to leave <problem child #3> alone! Trying not to make this fiasco any worse.   We can figure something out about the trees, and the stumps, but the fact he actually is demanding a bride to stop, really makes me mad!



On a side note, <town member A> catches a lot of crap. He does lack tact, and can have a temper, but he genuinely is a great guy, and gets a bad rap off all these fiascos. I made a joke with him one time. Asking if it were wrong to loot unlocked tents, standing beside someone's unlocked tent, he picked it up, and goes "holy cow, you can pick it up", and then drops it back down. He asked in community on sklotopolis server, if it were wrong to loot it?, and everyone on the server went nuts, just off of him asking about something I made a joke about, not actually doing it. They were saying things like this is a "friendly server" and "we don't do things like that on this server." If the community is outraged at that question that was actually asked as a joke... I wonder how it feels about these three events...


So, please let me know how you would handle people on this server who are anything but "friendly"! Because these same kind of things can and may have happened to you, and maybe you found a better way to deal with these situations.  Please feel free to post your thoughts, ideas, and your own problems "without mentioning names"!