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Post by toxa1811 on Oct 10, 2019 20:23:42 GMT
Hello!
Im Toxin, I used to play Sklo more often around an year ago and just came back to the game, started a few projects and things are getting smooth...
I was a bit skeptical to brought the subject here around Treasure Chests since they changed the appearence method of spawn but thats a bug I can let it go.
*in advance, sorry for the bad english guys*
During the time I was playing daily, a huge part of my fun time playing was chasing Treasure Chests in Caza, Lib and Novus, just killing things and wandering around. The fact that I could actually see something odd in the enviroment that was a "CHEST", really got my attention and I was happy doing some little gold from Lumps and building up my armor.
Well, thats over. I never used the ESP thing prior to the changes, so it was all random and fun, cause I had to actually make a viable route, kill mobs nearby and get the reward!
The fact is...I cant really see what im looking for specially because every world we have been playing is very poluted, lots of random things just left in the wilderness and becomes boring very fast to actually have to look for that bsb someone built in some odd place e never returned. After 2 runs just getting frustrated and bored i quit.
Now with my heart opened I would just say that maybe we should have worked the ESP thing, not the way a "chest" that was suppost to be a chest in the first place, change the spawn and all.
Ty :-)
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Post by Dextrome on Oct 11, 2019 7:45:56 GMT
I thought ESP looked for object names, not the models? Because you can put treasure in the name of any object and it will be highlighted by ESP - right?
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Post by Iamyourfather on Oct 11, 2019 8:32:22 GMT
I thought ESP looked for object names, not the models? Because you can put treasure in the name of any object and it will be highlighted by ESP - right? Correct.
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Post by Dextrome on Oct 11, 2019 9:33:24 GMT
So was the treasure chest model actually changed then? I haven't seen any in ages so I really have no clue 
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Post by Dominikk on Oct 11, 2019 9:35:29 GMT
Treasure chest are still here. Just the model and the name is different.
Finally ESP seems to be broken and everyone has the same chance of finding one. Let's be honest the people who found 10 chests a day were all using esp.
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Post by Iamyourfather on Oct 11, 2019 9:48:29 GMT
Treasure chest are still here. Just the model and the name is different. Finally ESP seems to be broken and everyone has the same chance of finding one. Let's be honest the people who found 10 chests a day were all using esp. Rare bone and moon metal values should start to pick up again now. \o/
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Post by Dextrome on Oct 11, 2019 10:11:43 GMT
I agree, it was a lame exploit.. Just wonder what the treasure chest model is now?
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Post by Iamyourfather on Oct 11, 2019 10:14:25 GMT
I agree, it was a lame exploit.. Just wonder what the treasure chest model is now? It's random, can be almost anything.
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Post by toxa1811 on Oct 11, 2019 18:28:39 GMT
Treasure chest are still here. Just the model and the name is different. Finally ESP seems to be broken and everyone has the same chance of finding one. Let's be honest the people who found 10 chests a day were all using esp. You're correct, they chance will all be equal. To 0. I dont think that taking a source of moon metal out this way could benefit the market in any form. Those that can't make some silver wont be able to buy and the others that have some silver dont need it anymore. It is what it is...i dont remember ppl complaining about "too much adamantine in the market" back an year ago...
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Post by Dominikk on Oct 11, 2019 20:32:35 GMT
Treasure chest are still here. Just the model and the name is different. Finally ESP seems to be broken and everyone has the same chance of finding one. Let's be honest the people who found 10 chests a day were all using esp. You're correct, they chance will all be equal. To 0. I dont think that taking a source of moon metal out this way could benefit the market in any form. Those that can't make some silver wont be able to buy and the others that have some silver dont need it anymore. It is what it is...i dont remember ppl complaining about "too much adamantine in the market" back an year ago... Chances are quite high, especially on Caza people still find a lot of them. There is no point in having treasure chest visible on ESP that is just cheating.
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Post by Dextrome on Oct 11, 2019 22:48:16 GMT
To be fair, he just wants the model to resemble a treasure chest 
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Post by Dominikk on Oct 12, 2019 6:37:52 GMT
To be fair, he just wants the model to resemble a treasure chest  Maybe to use ESP  ?
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Post by Engineer on Oct 12, 2019 7:24:22 GMT
I agree, if it would only be one model like the treasure chest, it would be easier to find in a legit way because you know what you are looking for exactly. However if its only one item model then ppl can just use ESP and there is not rly a point in rewarding ppl for, well..., cheating.
Right now thats the only way you can stop ESP. That or nerfing treasure chests so hard that they are no longer worth looking for or removing them.
The way its now it is harder to find them than originally. But still not impossible, especially on Caza.
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Post by toxa1811 on Oct 12, 2019 10:42:15 GMT
I have to say, thanks for all of you actually talk about it with me and the community. I am very happy already with that fact. I have no interest in cheating, or I wouldnt be here to tell about it, right?  To the other hand, the ESP fact is just the story above: "You got your wife cheating on you on your sofa, so you go there and sell the sofa. Problem solved." I wanna say is that the problem is in adicional programs doing the job for ya. If there is a way to block that i cant really say and I imagine that you guys tried that as well, but changing that appearence just break the immersion, the fun of actually looks for a chest full of treasures. Not a freaking cupboard or bin. Check the trade chat, there is noone selling moon metals or bones. They are just gone.
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Post by Engineer on Oct 12, 2019 11:10:53 GMT
Our main issue is not the supply of moon metals or bones, its that we wanted fairness when it comes to chest hunting. We don't want a legit player actively looking for a chest and finding maybe 1 in a week while a player with ESP finds way more with way less effort.
Sadly there is no viable way for us to block ESP itself so we went with this solution to even the playing field for everyone in terms of chest hunting and make it fair. Yes the way its now it is way harder for people to find them in crowded areas but at least everybody has the same chances.
Right now this is the only solution we have to deal with this issue. We are always open for ideas on this of course. If we find a more elegant method to deal with this then we will change it. But as of now we don't rly have any other options (besides removing treasure chests) if we want to provide a fair playing field.
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